radio ramblings

doug pagitt radioyesterday i had the privilege of being part of doug pagitt’s sunday radio show to talk about down we go.  it was fun.  don’t laugh too hard at the end when i’m talking mid-sentence and that’s the end.  it’s the first part of hour 2, about 20 minutes long, the same amount of time it often takes to read one of my long posts, ha ha.

you can listen to it here.

it was a good lead-in to my next blog post that’s ruminating from our conversation at last week’s wednesday house of refuge (we’re processing through down we go together this summer) & the difference between ascent & descent.  coming wednesday.

if you listen, i’d love to hear your thoughts, any ideas it stirred up.



Kathy Escobar

Kathy Escobar is dedicated to creating safe and brave spaces for transformation and healing in real life and online. She co-pastors at The Refuge, a Christian community and mission center in North Denver and is the author of Practicing: Changing Yourself to Change the World, Faith Shift: Finding Your Way Forward When Everything You Believe is Coming Apart and several other books.

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  • Yeah, I wasn’t a big fan of the last interruption, especially since you are so good at making sure everyone one gets heard. Oh well, truth is I could have listened to soooo much more of it, anyways.

    What I appreciate is that *every* time this conversation comes up, and when I read your words, it helps me remember that this downward mobility choice matters, and what life was like before? I swear that I develop some form of short-term memory loss (repression?) when I think of the whole ascent/life before community, and it does help to get those reminders of beauty. Especially when it does get really, really, hard down here (but I *do* love the smell) 😉


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